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delichon 2 hours ago [-]
Unmarked no-fly zones at unannounced times and locations are a remarkable innovation. Hopefully they will tell you when and where you shouldn't have been when they charge you for it, but that may be classified.
hn_throwaway_99 26 minutes ago [-]
Ambiguous laws (which in this case are by definition impossible to comply with) which are capriciously enforced are a hallmark of authoritarian and fascist regimes. Sadly ironic, the US government used to highlight this fact:
Of note, the article seems to mention 3 things:
1) Vague laws
2) Arbitrary Enforcement
3) Lack of due process
All three seem to be important facts for an Authoritarian Regieme
I point this out, because I believe the US has long had vague laws, and our Due Process helps kick out arbitrary enforcement. I also believe that our Checks and Balance system (part of Due Process) is currently broken
pigpag 47 seconds ago [-]
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duxup 17 minutes ago [-]
Heck if they do tell you, ICE swaps plates and tries to hide in various ways.
The evidence could be just some regular looking vehicle you can't find anything about and it's just "trust me bro those were feds" and you're out of luck.
helterskelter 1 hours ago [-]
Up next, secret interpretations of laws to do things with zero accountability or public overaight. Oh wait we already have that.
solid_fuel 47 minutes ago [-]
Before you know it, they'll be detaining people without legal representation, shipping them to overseas black sites, and murdering citizens in the street. Oh, wait that's been the entirety of this treasonous administration.
cindyllm 46 minutes ago [-]
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Artoooooor 6 minutes ago [-]
Couldn't it be used to identify/track the ICE vehicles? Observe where drones suddenly become enclosed in a no-fly zone (do I understand correctly that operators get notification that they should land immediately)?
tamimio 2 hours ago [-]
> the order extended no-fly zones to ground vehicles belonging to the Department of Homeland Security. Even while the vehicles were in motion. Even if they were unmarked. And even if their routes had not been announced.
I want to know the genius who wrote this, and the mastermind who approved it.
nkrisc 1 hours ago [-]
Whoever it was knew exactly what they were doing, and it was intentional.
solid_fuel 49 minutes ago [-]
This is exactly how corrupt, authoritarian governments have always operated.
fluoridation 41 minutes ago [-]
Do no-fly zones extend indefinitely upwards? If so, can you build a no-fly wall out of cars?
kccqzy 29 minutes ago [-]
The article states 1,000 vertical feet. Obviously this is targeting small drones and not commercial aircraft or even general aviation.
michaelt 27 seconds ago [-]
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lenerdenator 50 minutes ago [-]
Someone who doesn't get that we're supposed to have a representative government with enumerated powers in this country.
Or maybe they do get that, but find it incredibly inconvenient to their own aspirations.
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avazhi 26 minutes ago [-]
AI?
sameers 2 hours ago [-]
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solidsnack9000 1 hours ago [-]
Not really. The FAA revised the rule, but that was their choice, not the result of a ruling or even the reasoned application of a general principle.
The very broad power of administrative rulemaking held by that agency is unchanged -- and the power of agencies generally, to make law without legislating, without accountability to the electorate, actually has nothing to do with this administration, does it? It actually has nothing to do with any of them. It's something the legislature has allowed to grow and grow over successive administrations, whether Democrats or Republicans are in power.
0cf8612b2e1e 59 minutes ago [-]
I am not sure what is a better alternative. Laws can set the broad guidelines, but the people in those administrative roles have to make explicit decisions when gray areas inevitably arise. The legislature is free to codify the exact rules it wants when they disagree with the current setup.
solidsnack9000 12 minutes ago [-]
They are free to do it but don't. That's exactly the problem. They also don't respond to overreach in rulemaking by revising the grants they have made, so it has been a cumulative process.
Computer0 1 hours ago [-]
Now they are allowed to shoot them down at will.
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avazhi 28 minutes ago [-]
Why would you allow drones near moving vehicles in the first place, ICE or not?
The FAA needs to get off its ass with drones, it’s only a matter of time before some dipshit trying to get TikTok footage or an actual bad actor brings down a fucking airliner with one of these. It’s insane to me how unregulated drones generally are.
rconti 17 minutes ago [-]
6/10ths of a mile?
actionfromafar 23 minutes ago [-]
And don't get me started on unregulated basketballs, many of those have much more mass than some of the smaller drones! We need to close the basketball gap, now.
avazhi 17 minutes ago [-]
Comparing a basketball to a drone might have made sense to you when you first thought about it, but surely at some point in the comment drafting process you ought to have realised how laughable that is.
Do better or just don’t waste others’ time.
gbin 18 minutes ago [-]
What are you talking about. Read part 107. Flying a drone is almost as hard as flying legally a private plane. Fines are huge. They are enforced.
avazhi 15 minutes ago [-]
> Flying a drone is almost as hard as flying legally a private plane
What universe are you in?
The FAA can’t even find and identify most of the dickheads flying drones around restricted airspace. Drones are cheap and easily accessible. Compare both of those things with the cost of getting a PPL, to say nothing of how expensive even a small plane is. It isn’t just the US, either - I’ve flown small planes in both America and Australia, and drones are something that both the FAA and CASA clearly aren’t equipped to deal with. Regulations and laws don’t matter if you can’t enforce them because you can’t identify the perpetrator.
"Authoritarian regimes’ unclear laws make anyone a suspect" - https://ge.usembassy.gov/authoritarian-regimes-unclear-laws-...
All three seem to be important facts for an Authoritarian Regieme
I point this out, because I believe the US has long had vague laws, and our Due Process helps kick out arbitrary enforcement. I also believe that our Checks and Balance system (part of Due Process) is currently broken
The evidence could be just some regular looking vehicle you can't find anything about and it's just "trust me bro those were feds" and you're out of luck.
I want to know the genius who wrote this, and the mastermind who approved it.
Or maybe they do get that, but find it incredibly inconvenient to their own aspirations.
The very broad power of administrative rulemaking held by that agency is unchanged -- and the power of agencies generally, to make law without legislating, without accountability to the electorate, actually has nothing to do with this administration, does it? It actually has nothing to do with any of them. It's something the legislature has allowed to grow and grow over successive administrations, whether Democrats or Republicans are in power.
The FAA needs to get off its ass with drones, it’s only a matter of time before some dipshit trying to get TikTok footage or an actual bad actor brings down a fucking airliner with one of these. It’s insane to me how unregulated drones generally are.
Do better or just don’t waste others’ time.
What universe are you in?
The FAA can’t even find and identify most of the dickheads flying drones around restricted airspace. Drones are cheap and easily accessible. Compare both of those things with the cost of getting a PPL, to say nothing of how expensive even a small plane is. It isn’t just the US, either - I’ve flown small planes in both America and Australia, and drones are something that both the FAA and CASA clearly aren’t equipped to deal with. Regulations and laws don’t matter if you can’t enforce them because you can’t identify the perpetrator.